Showrunner Caroline Dries discusses Batwing’s future, season 2’s lack of onscreen lesbian intimacy, and more.
Warning: This article contains spoilers for the season 2 finale ofBatwoman.
Yes, this was the one instance when saying yes to drugs was a good thing.
Camrus Johnson, Javicia Leslie, and Nicole Kang on ‘Batwoman’.The CW
The finale also set up some major obstacles for Ryan going into season 3.
First, a newly imprisoned Alice revealed that Ryan’s biological mother is alive.
Thank Beebo that Batwoman will have Batwing by her side.
Wallis Day and Meagan Tandy on ‘Batwoman’.The CW
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Is this the end of the Kate Kane story for you all?
CAROLINE DRIES:Yeah, it’s our way of wrapping up her journey.
This show has mainly dealt with father-daughter relationships.
Camrus Johnson on ‘Batwoman’.The CW
Does this mark a thematic shift in the show?
The theme has always been family.
She had it with her adoptive mom, but that was ripped away from her.
Who gave me my looks?
Who gave me my interests?"
For Ryan, that’s something she’s going to grapple with how much does she want to know?
Now Mary has lost both her parents, although Jacob is technically still alive.
How will she handle that in season 3?
It will definitely take its toll on Mary.
What will be fun in season 3 is really rejuvenating this relationship between Mary and Alice.
She is literally the last person there is for her family.
Likewise for Alice, Mary is the last one there is.
So it’ll make for a very fun dynamic.
But a complicated one, because Ryan also hates Alice for killing her mom.
[Laughs] Yes, it’s very complicated indeed.
So it’s up to us as a writers to constantly entangle her in the drama.
But to me, she really does feel like the core villain, the core conflict.
It felt like Alice was gravitating more toward being an antihero in season 2.
Do you still view her as the show’s villain?
I think of her as the redeemable villain, and that’s what makes her so interesting.
We know she’s worth investing in, but she just makes it so dang hard.
She’s going to have some slide-backs going into season 3.
What’s the plan for all these Batman trophies being let loose?
Obviously it’s a pretty intense cliffhanger.
The tease we’re making the audience is, “These are loose out in the wild.”
So anyone can literally come and pick them up.
So Batwoman definitely has a huge problem next season.
There weren’t really any obstacles.
How do you imagine Batwoman and Batwing’s partnership working next season?
What we’ll learn early on in season 3 is Luke isn’t necessarily trained to be a superhero.
That’s something he’s going to have to go through for his own personal journey.
He still has a lot of baggage to unpack from season 2.
Any plans for her next season?
Will Safiyah creep into the picture?
But right now we’re really refocusing the drama and stakes on Ryan and Batwoman.
Is there anything else you wanted to add about season 2?
We were very happy to be able to get Sophie and Kate their kiss in the finale.
And I remembered where we were at the beginning of the season.
So I just had to ask myself, “How did we let this happen?”
Do you hope to have more intimate moments in season 3?
Javicia recently told me she’s hoping to get a real love interest next year.
Batwomanseason 3 premieres Wednesday, Oct. 13, at 9 p.m. ET/PT on the CW.
