He hasn’t even listened to Red.

Anyone who’s been online in the past year knows about the strife between die-hardTaylor Swiftfans andJake Gyllenhaal.

The discourse sparked memes, an entire TikTok trend, and heaps of malice for theNightcrawlerandBrokeback Mountainactor from Swifties.

Jake Gyllenhaal; Taylor Swift

Jake Gyllenhaal has broken his silence on fan reactions to Taylor Swift’s ‘All Too Well.'.Taylor Hill/FilmMagic; Dimitrios Kambouris/Getty Images

“It has nothing to do with me,” he says.

“It’s about her relationship with her fans.

It is her expression.

Artists tap into personal experiences for inspiration, and I don’t begrudge anyone that.”

“My life is wonderful,” he says.

“I have a relationship that is truly wonderful, and I have a family I love so much.

And this whole period of time has made me realize that.”

That begs for a deeper philosophical question.

How do we provoke a conversation?"

“My question is: Is this our future?”

“Is anger and divisiveness our future?

Or can we be empowered and empower others while simultaneously putting empathy and civility into the dominant conversation?”

Read the fullEsquireprofile of Gyllenhaalhere.