Co-creator and showrunner Elgin James answers all of our burning questions about Mayans' game-changing season 4 finale.
Sangre es sangre but for how much longer?
Of all of the shocking developments in the fourth season finale ofMayans M.C.
Emilio Rivera and Kim Coates in ‘Mayans M.C.'.Prashant Gupta/FX
“What the f— is wrong with you, bro?
And yes, Angel, that definitelywasa threat.
What EZ doesn’t know yet is that train is about to derail.
King of Meth Mountain) is still alive, and more burning questions from the finale.
Was this always your plan for EZ when you andKurt SuttercreatedMayans?
ELGIN JAMES:It was alwaysmyplan.
It was our plan to show the dynamics of a full human being.
You think someone is something and then they turn out to be something about 400 shades darker.
“Don’t pay attention to us.
We’re just a little bridge, a little bridge to the verse.”
And every once in a while it keeps coming back, these few notes.
Maybe you’re paying attention, maybe you’re not.
They’re buried underneath the guitar solo.
That’s what we really wanted to do with both EZ and Angel.
This is who they always were.
Like, “Oh, this is the way he was always going to end.
This was his fate from the start.”
How much did this influence Marcus’ determination to keep the peace with the Sons?
I think it did make a difference.
It came out of something that happened in my real life where our friend Danny had passed away.
We killed her nephew.
That always really stuck with me, because in a lot of ways she was right.
So I think with Marcus, he was always leaning this way.
I think it’s another part of his journey.
That’s the difference with the last two seasons ofMayans it becomes about consequences.
Kurt and I always knew that.
And Kurt was like, “Well, that’s exactly why you have to tell this story.”
So we knew this is where we were going.
It’s always brooding inside him.
I think now he does have that right grounding and that right strength with his wife.
How long have you wanted to bring him back, and why was now the right time?
It had to be organic.
And Kurt was just like, “All right, slow down.
We have to find the right time.
Ray was the first [Sonsactor to appear].
Obviously, we wanted Tommy [Flanagan, who appeared as Chibs in season 2 ofMayans].
Tommy’s my boy outside of this mythology.
But then Kim is such a phenomenal actor, so we’ve always wanted to see that dude.
He’s so electric, he’s so alive!
We’re thinking of these pairings that could be really, really fun.
So Kim Coates will be back onMayansnext season?
If we get a season five, who knows?
It was such a treat [to have him on set].
So many selfies were taken from the crew and the cast, he was treated like royalty.
Later, Tig tells Marcus that Les Packer’s “crazy” baby brother is back.
So… is Isaac’s last name Packer, and is he the Big Bad next season?
Yes, one hundred percent.
Some people picked up in season three that Isaac has the Sons of Anarchy tattoo, the reaper tattoo.
So, we’ve planning this for a while to bring him back.
Plus, JR Bourne is just another actor who’s so alive, so present.
So yeah, you may see Isaac again.
He may come ready to set some fires.
I think it’s gonna affect him in a very, very big way.
Everything he’s believed has just now crumbled beneath his feet.
They are both plotting to take the other out as soon as they can.
So this will complicate things.
Can we assume these things are all related?
I think we’ll see that whether you want it or not, The Man usually wins.
Potter has his fingers in everything, just as he did with [Miguel] Galindo.
And next season is going to be complicated for everyone.
For the first time, we finally got to see some of the trauma in real time with Adelita.
So much of what we do is about generational violence.
I will ask you about that ending, but first we have to get to the coup.
EZ is not a villain.
That’s the thing, he’s not turning into a villain.
He’s doing what’s right for the club, what everyone else can’t do.
Because everyone else lets their emotions, their personal life, their ego get involved.
Because the club is a monster, and the monster needs to be fed.
And Bishop was the same way.
He let his own personal demons get in the way of what was best.
EZ is clear-eyed and focused.
He’s like, this is what I need to do for my brothers.
It’s about, this is what the machine needs.
I need to help steer this machine and I don’t trust anybody else.
And in many ways, he’s right.
If Felipe hadn’t done that, could things have been different for EZ?
He’d be gone right now.
He’d be working construction somewhere.
He’d be talking about poetry at the construction site.
He’d be happy, but maybe not fully because he would have avoided his fate.
And then he got spat back out.
He had to do it to protect his brother.
His bond with Angel is so strong, but Angel clearly doesn’t agree with EZ’s actions.
In the finale, EZ essentially tells him he needs to get on board or else.
Was it hard to put them at odds like this?
Because as a fan, it’s hard to watch.
That is the show.
We are an ensemble, and we work as an ensemble.
It’s very rare to find.
It just jumps off the screen.
But story-wise, it is tough to write against that.
we’ve broken them apart before, but it’s part of what happens with their destiny.
Angel failed [at] that.
He tried to do that, but EZ’s actually really going to do it.
He’s like, “Yo, don’t interrupt him!”
He needs that structure.
What can you preview about that relationship going forward?
Sarah Bolgeris one of the bravest actors that we have.
Emily has no choice but to come back for her child.
Is this the last we’re going to see of him?
I can’t get rid of Joseph Lucero that easily, are you kidding me?
That’s my boy Joe!
He’s texted me five times today.
I can’t get rid of him.
No, we’re going to have to see.
Where do you go from there?
He made the ultimate [sacrifice] because that’s who Creeper is.
He’s always been isolated, he’s always been vulnerable, just like Kate said.
What can you preview about how those ramifications will play out?
He plays Hoosier on our show… We were going to shoot the clubhouse scene after Coco’s funeral.
I was so inspired… so we shot the rest of the episode differently.
The brothers will never be the same.
