“I think it’s both,” she says.
“For me, I think it’s both.
I do, because I mean, I know the origin of the word.”
Mariah Carey and Meghan Markle.Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images; Chris Jackson/Getty Images
“It’s very much the grandeur of it all, is what I envisioned,” Carey recalls.
“Glamorized and fabulous and whatever.
It’s not okay for you to be a strong woman, you know what I mean?”
Mariah Carey’s ‘Cribs’ episode, a seminal moment in diva history.MTV
“Half of it is just for laughs.”
“Some people took it so seriously when you were in your stilettos and getting in the bath.
“You give us diva moments sometimes, Meghan.
Don’t even act like…” Carey quips, as Meghan gently protests.
Carey then clarifies: “It’s the visual.
It’s the visual.
A lot of it is the visual.
You wouldn’t maybe get as much diva.”
“People strive for divadom,” she tells Meghan.
“Revel in it!”
But Meghan is clearly hesitant about doing so.
“I just kept thinking in that moment, ‘Was my girl crush coming to a quick demise?
Does she actually not see me?'”
The quote-unquote fabulousness, as she sees it.
She meant diva as a compliment, but I heard it as a dig.”
For Carey, the term diva is as comfortable as sequins in the middle of the day.
