Hisham Tawfiq breaks down “Boukman Baptiste.”

Warning: This article contains spoilers forThe Blacklistseason 9, episode 9,“Boukman Baptiste.”

To make matters more complicated, Red blames Dembe for Liz’s death.

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Hisham Tawfiq as Dembe Zuma.Will Hart/NBC

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What was your reaction to finding out Dembe would become an FBI agent?

Watching Dembe give a briefing is exciting!

It was challenging and a little nerve-racking at first.

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It tripped me up a bit, but I got used to it.

What has it been like to take the dynamic you built with James Spader to this new place?

There’s another layer on that because it’s a bit weird personally and professionally.

It took me a while to get used to it after eight seasons of being next to him.

What is it like for you to play a character like this?

It’s not as hard as some would imagine because it started with the creation of this character.

[Dembe] came on for one episode and didn’t have any lines.

I was allowed the freedom to create this character based on my personal experience.

Before I was a New York City firefighter, I was a New York State Correction Officer.

It was a strange dynamic where people in jail would look at me as a sellout and the enemy.

What has developing that dynamic been like this season?

It’s a push-and-pull relationship.

Also, now there’s a bigger mountain to climb, and they have to do it together.

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

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