CastingTitus WelliverinTitanswas not a hard sell.

“But when I called to kind of lure him in, I could barely get a word in.

He’s a giant, giant fan.

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Lex Luthor (Titus Welliver) talks to Starfire (Anna Diop) on ‘Titans’ season 4.Warner Bros.

He’d watched every episode of the show, and could tell me about certain stories, certain shots.

It was the most unexpected call I’ve ever had.”

Despite being one of the most infamous supervillains in the DC canon, he’s still just human.

His threat is intellectual and psychological.

“He has a very sensitive, thoughtful approach to evil and power.

He doesn’t have a cat on his lap.

He’s curious, which I think is very interesting about his character.

He wants to know about people and what makes them tick, and how they’re different from him.

Luthor is particularly threatening for Superboy.

Conner (Joshua Orpin) was created from a combination of Superman’s DNA with Luthor’s.

This season, Conner will finally have to reckon with what that means.

“We’re really going deeper in all these characters and shaking them up,” Walker says.

“What shakes Conner up is an identity story.

He’s explored his Superman self, but he has not really explored his Lex self.

What does that mean when you do?

What happens when you give that self the keys to the car?

Does it start driving the wrong way at rush hour 100 miles an hour?”

Check out the first look photo above.Titansseason 4 premieres on HBO Max this November.